Is it a relic of the past?
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | September 2, 2021 5:46 AM |
Well, Michele Bachmann hasn't gotten a divorce yet.
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 30, 2021 3:09 AM |
There are still a lot of dumb older millennial (now) fraus who grew up attracted to obvious gay men, and I think it broke their hearts/gaydar.
I don't know about the younger generations though.
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 30, 2021 3:15 AM |
I know a hair stylist who flames from high heaven and anyone can tell he is gay unless they are deaf, dumb, and blind. Yet he has 3 kids and has been married to a woman for YEARS. He comes from a VERY religious family, so it’s clear that he only married her to please his family. I swear she must know and be in denial because there is no way you would ever think this guy is straight.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 30, 2021 3:18 AM |
Closeted gays marry women EVERY DAY.
Still.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 30, 2021 3:26 AM |
My wife doesn't have a clue.
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 30, 2021 3:31 AM |
The detritus of these arrangements form a sizable chunk of failed Christian and Muslim marriages.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 30, 2021 3:32 AM |
I'm not sure that I believe in the whole "unsuspecting" women thing. I think they always know, but choose to ignore it for reasons known only to them. It's kind of like parents, they know, but many just make the choice not to know.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 30, 2021 3:32 AM |
OP, I don't understand what you're talking about
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 30, 2021 3:35 AM |
R9 is correct. A woman knows when a guy is just not that into her - even if she denies it because she loves him, religion, kids, career, appearances etc.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 30, 2021 3:42 AM |
Duh and they will continue to exist as long as Mormons are around!
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 30, 2021 3:45 AM |
yes judging from the "bi" married men on hookup apps!
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 30, 2021 3:49 AM |
Olivia Rodrigo wrote a whole album to an ex who just came out of the closet.
I think there’s a lot of people / women too self absorbed to care or notice.
My pansexual ex has bottomed for every man within a 5 mile radius on Grindr and all of his girlfriends think he’s straight as an arrow
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 30, 2021 3:49 AM |
R9 is right. Even in the past, most of those women were not unsuspecting.
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 30, 2021 3:51 AM |
Bi men are tricky because they might actually enjoy sex with their wives/girlfriends, but a gay men - nope. Too much of a struggle - no matter what she tries.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 30, 2021 3:52 AM |
I think you're giving some of these women too much credit by saying they never know. There really are people that dumb or oblivious
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 30, 2021 4:02 AM |
Olivia Rodrigo… My pansexual ex…
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 30, 2021 5:00 AM |
Women know and some of them like it.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 30, 2021 6:41 AM |
[R18] I don’t even think it’s always dumb or oblivious, I think there are women who are too self absorbed to notice.
Some are never in situations where it would be questioned or even thought about. And a lot of women over idealize their men to be things they’re not, which is another reason they wouldn’t notice.
I mean it’s like how many women would be shocked to be transgender female porn on their husbands phones?
I’ve been surprised by some of my friends being gay so it’s just not shocking a woman wouldn’t know lol.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 30, 2021 6:45 AM |
It's really something watching the women of my generation transition into these lame fraus!
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 30, 2021 6:49 AM |
Anyone else noticed the woman 6 marrying the gay man 9 or 10? And have you noticed the way said woman reacts when an attractive gay male comes within reach of their precious closet-case? What were they all thinking in the first place!
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 30, 2021 6:53 AM |
I went through a period where I had sex with women. The only way I could get off was to fantasize about what a cute straight guy would feel if he was fucking the woman. It was complicated, but it worked.
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 30, 2021 6:56 AM |
Ah-Ma wants grandchildren and I want inheritance.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 30, 2021 7:11 AM |
R21: The difference with you and your gay friends is you're not fucking them. A woman can tell when a guy is not into sex with her! and many will try anything and everything to try to get him into it (epic fail since she is not a guy). Then, she will go into denial, but be very clingy when a hot guy is around her man. R23 nailed it lol.
However, some women are very clueless with broken gaydar. That is apparent by some obviously gay men whose heterosexually is defended on this board.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 30, 2021 2:53 PM |
R26, lot of these diehard fundie and Mormon fraus are virgins when they get married. So many of them don't know what to expect from a sexual relationship with a guy
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 30, 2021 5:55 PM |
If both are okay with a lackluster sex life, I could see the appeal of having a spouse that's more like a friend. Probably keeps women happy with being sensitive, keeping up looks, being good with the kids. Sometimes shit like that works out for everyone.
It's not good to feel forced into the closet of course, but marriage is weird in its own ways. There's a lot of people that get married for reasons besides love or sex. They see it more as a business relationship.
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 30, 2021 6:56 PM |
R26 I feel like the type of woman who would wind up with a gay husband wouldn’t even like sex all that much to notice it.
Kind of like Reese Witherspoon’s character in “American Psycho”. Christian Bale’s character served as a good prop boyfriend for her image and social hierarchy.
I think there’s all sorts of psychological reasons why a woman would fall in love with a gay man and I don’t think being in love and sex or caring about him is truly one of them. I think things like image, social status, money are more of the reasons.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 31, 2021 12:57 AM |
Wait I didn’t mean a woman fall in love with a gay man, I meant be with a gay man. I don’t believe it’s love.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 31, 2021 12:58 AM |
Quite a few women subconsciously marry gay men. They are safe and non-threatening. They had very bad experiences with straight men.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 31, 2021 1:13 AM |
They are repressed lesbians
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 31, 2021 1:22 AM |
You give a her a couple fingers once a month and she has no idea!
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 31, 2021 1:26 AM |
As said above a woman experienced sexually with straight men is going to know if a guy isn't really into women when he makes love to her.
It is still advantageous to have a woman on your arm in so many situations. Straight people who can help you socially and professionally are going to feel a lot more comfortable and it greases a lot of i.
| by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 31, 2021 1:31 AM |
Straight women have been marrying gay men since forever. It usually ends up being mutually beneficial to both parties. There are many people in the world who are just looking for someone to be with and don't need all the physical stuff. A lot of straight couples end up going to separate bedrooms.
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 31, 2021 1:46 AM |
God, do they ever. Take a look at AdultFriendFinder.com, most of the men there claim to be straight married guys and they're mostly fishing for dick. It's unbelievable. There are also lots of self-admitted bi-curious guys, married or otherwise. The closet is still packed.
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 31, 2021 1:50 AM |
You bet your baccalà, baby!!! 🇮🇹
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 31, 2021 2:01 AM |
Yes but they're all Asian.
| by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 31, 2021 2:20 AM |
Then there are places like India where gay men are arranged into marriages with females whether they like it or not. I believe it's still VERY uncommon for men to come out of the closet there.
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 31, 2021 2:43 AM |
Not just in India do marriages exist for reasons other than deep sexual passion.
With the vast majority of girls being sexually abused as little girls many would be content to be in a lasting union based on a true friendship and similar cultural background with shared values, commitment to religious beliefs, raising children and compatible extended family traditions.
Or the couple has very similar past times and hobbies, even working in the same industry.
Some women have low expectations of marital sexual fidelity based on their fathers' and/or male relatives affairs and would be less damaged if the "other" is a man rather than a younger woman who could get pregnant. Think of all the military men who endure long separations from their wives and girlfriends.
Conservative women have less to fear if their husbands need marriage for work advancement. Don't think this issue is still crucial away from liberal cities and artistic professions. Yes I know many very happy marriages like in the above cases.
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 31, 2021 9:05 PM |
I agree on the sexual abuse part . But non butch lesbians are the most healthiest bet
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | September 1, 2021 1:41 AM |
r23 I believe Liz Lemon addressed that in her Dealbreakers talk show, it's called fruit blindness
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | September 1, 2021 12:35 PM |
Not married, but I knew some of them in relationships with obviously closeted dudes, one of them even knew all along, but she was a nasty social climber so
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | September 1, 2021 12:40 PM |
Two of my fuckbuddies are married and fathers. They are not very macho nor are they femmy. They started off tops with me but after years of satisfying fuckbuddy relations they were bottoming more and more. They are educated and polite and have huge cocks and are creative fuckers. They both have wives who pretend not to know. They both tell me they are bisexual so I supposed they well fucked their wives long enough and also made kids. I think one is truly bisexual and the other is gay and lives a lie. His lie of being bisexual to me, and his lie of being heterosexual to his wife. I would never partner with him due to this character flaw but the sex stays hot and for years of regular meets. Bizarre.
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | September 1, 2021 12:54 PM |
I occasionally hook up for groups with a buddy who loves "straight married" men. Generally, these guys don't seem to be unhappy with their choices. They love their wives and kids, drop them off at the skating rink before they join us for some afternoon sex play, sometimes even take their calls while getting blown by a couple of guys, then resume their daily activities. It's happened more times than I can count. A couple of them have been married more than thirty years and have grandchildren. Are they happy? Who know. Are you?
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | September 2, 2021 5:46 AM |
